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Vladimir Putin accused President Bush tonight of orchestrating the war in Georgia in a plot to get John McCain elected to the White House.
In his most explosive allegation since the South Ossetia crisis erupted, the Russian Prime Minister said that the United States had provoked the conflict to aid the Republican candidate, who is an outspoken critic of the Kremlin.
“It is not just that the American side could not restrain the Georgian leadership from this criminal act. The American side in effect armed and trained the Georgian army,” Mr Putin said.
“Why spend years holding difficult negotiations and looking for complicated compromises in ethnic conflicts? It’s easier to arm one of the parties and push it to kill the other party, and the job is done.
“The suspicion arises that someone in the United States especially created this conflict with the aim of making the situation more tense and creating a competitive advantage for one of the candidates fighting for the post of US President.”
Mr Putin said that his defence officials had told him that Americans were operating in the conflict zone in Georgia during the fighting.
He added: “It should be admitted that they would do so only following direct orders from their leaders. Therefore, they were acting in implementing those orders, doing as they were ordered, and the only one who can give such orders is their leader.”
Mr Putin did not name Mr Bush directly but the White House swiftly denounced his allegations, made during an interview with CNN. His comments were also broadcast on Russian television, which had been circulating a similar conspiracy theory last week.
By lending his authority to the claims, Mr Putin has raised tensions with the US to a new level just days before Dick Cheney, the US Vice President, is due to arrive in Georgia to show support for its pro-Western leader Mikheil Saakashvili.
Dana Perino, a White House spokeswoman, said: “To suggest that the United States orchestrated this on behalf of a political candidate – it sounds not rational.
“Those claims first and foremost are patently false, but it also sounds like his defence officials who said they believed this to be true are giving him really bad advice.”
The deputy head of Russia’s general staff told reporters in Moscow that troops had found a US passport in a village near the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, where he said Georgian special forces had been operating during the conflict.
“What was that gentleman’s purpose of being among the special forces and what he is doing today, I so far cannot answer,” Colonel-General Anatoly Nogovitsyn said.
“We have been looking for the holder of the passport but haven’t been able to find him. We know that he is a resident in the state of Texas.”
Mr Putin’s allegations were broadcast as President Dmitri Medvedev turned his back on a wave of Western condemnation and sought support in the East for his decision on Tuesday to recognise the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from Georgia.
But China and the leaders of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan refused to rally round their fellow member Russia at a summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, despite an appeal from Mr Medvedev to denounce Georgian “aggression”.
A joint declaration praised Moscow’s “active role in promoting peace” in the Caucasus but also stressed the need to respect existing borders. It said: “The participants...underscore the need for respect of the historical and cultural traditions of each country and each people, and for efforts aimed at preserving the unity of the state and its territorial integrity.”
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There's no mention of Georgia's prior attack which killed 2000 Russian citizens' residing in Odessa in an effort to take over the borders. So it's okay for Georgia to attack but not for Russia to respond? Georgia got what they had coming to them. Does anyone recognize Georgia's relation with Iraq?
Danielle, Boston, USA
To Rob, Sydney, Australia
No, it is not USA that is a threat to world peace, it is Russia. Russia's excuse to intervene in Georgia is same as Hitler trying to intervene in Czechoslovakia in 1939. Next could be Ukraine, or the Baltics. That is why Russia is a threat to world peace, even to Europe.
Sam, Clarkston, USA
I would suggest to the genius strines that they overestimate the IQ levels of Texans, In addition, they should give Australia back to its rightful owners and stop exterminating them. Moreover, the USA, usually via CIA, has been very active in Africa for 50 yrs., as it has in Australia. Is this news?
Augustus McCrae, Austin, TX, USA
Texan rednecks with their IQ's of 92. It's time you lot handed back Hawaii & Guam to their rightful owners. Those countries dont belong to the US. The US with it's 750 foreign military bases around the world are a threat to world peace. Whenever there's a war the US are involved except in Africa
Rob, Sydney, Australia
To Tanya, Moscow, Russia
I heard a similar story, I told my brother about it and he actually thought I meant the state also. I can see WWIII coming.
Joshua Smith, Cleveland, United States of America
"Whether or not this is correct, Putin is as credible as Bush or cheney; Putin has been more truthful with us than Bush."
Sorry, not possible in a country fed its news by Kremlin TV. There are PLENTY of people ready to point the finger here in the good ol' USA. Maybe you should move to Moscow?
Duke R. Keith, El Paso, TX, USA
"no mass media from the west. NONE. Why?
My answer- your leaders don't want you to know the truth... sorry
Leonid, Moscow, "
Leonid, we see plenty of Putin press conferences. Don't be silly. Remember Anna Politkovskaya? This doesn't happen in the West. Wake up! Putin leads you to bleed you.
Duke R. Keith, El Paso, TX, USA
"how many of you have ever voted for anyone other than a Republican?"
I have. Bill Clinton, 1992. Maybe Obama. Bush may have lied, but it doesn't excuse Putin. It makes it worse, actually, because he's taking advantage of a trust vacuum we have when it comes to our govt. Russia's covering up.
Duke R. Keith, El Paso, TX, USA
"Funny, UK and US nationals are claiming that Mr Putin is mad, while the rest of the world thinks otherwise. Who's brainwashed here?"
Funny, Yuri, that you leave out those in Slovakia and other former Soviet satellites that know BS when they see it from a Russian.
YOUR MEDIA IS STATE RUN
Duke R. Keith, El Paso, TX, USA
to Robin Laundon, London, UK
If you're talking about Russian Federation(not USSR),then I can tell you we've never annexed other countries.Best regards to colonists and attackers of all centuries(UK,USA,France,Germany etc)
yulia, Moscow,
The official comission say 133 dead found INCLUDING MILITANTS!!!
so you are still beliving to any world comming out of russian officials??
amazing how "liberals" suddenly justify ethnic cleansing,wiping villages,cluster bombing,looting and killing civilians...
disgusting!
Rezo, Tbilisi, Georgia
Something tells me that it was Dick Cheney, not Bush, who mastered this war. By the way, Putin did not tell that Bush made it. The title is misleading. We just need to wait till it will come out.
Wagner, Neuss,
To Harry, FL, US. i think u sound like you're out of your mind. we Russians didnt invade Georgia, we saved innocent people. You think Putin's after oil?? u people in the west are so stupid. your people invaded Iraq and killed thousands of people for oil!!!!
FELIX, MOSCOW, Russia
bhahahaha..... ....stupid americans think that Putin feares McCain? McCain is a clown (Obama too). Putin has SS-18, SS-19, Topol-M and feares nobody. In WW3 we trust.
Roman, Moscow, Russia
To Mar, Tulsa. Putin is NOT an idiot! Bush and McCain are. i heard McCain - "Russia invaded georgia for oil", i mean seriously how can someone so daft run for President? GEORGIANS BACKED BY AMERICANS KILLED RUSSIANS AND OSSETIANS! and u think we Russians dont have a right to defend ourselves?
Felix, Moscow, russia
to Scott, Buffalo, USA. how can u be so silly? and ignorant. it's because of people like u who probably voted for Bush that thousands of people are dying in Iraq. Putin isnt scared of McCain, he has just unmasked that two-faced fool of a cane!
Felix, Moscow, Russia
To Michael Walsh, Manchester. Oh yes, Michael, people believe Putin, people really do: in Russia and in the West! americans are so silly, im not surprised that one of them lost their passport while backing georgians who killed Russians. bin laden's Saudi, why didnt the US invade Saudi Arabia?
Felix, Moscow, russia
I doubt Russia will find anything more about the Texan, by now he will have a new identity and anything else left would have been destroyed. The US has the gall to say Russia is disrespecting the UN council, when the US has been making a mockery of it for years.
Darren, London, UK
Like little boys posturing in the playground...these two are as bad and corrupt as each other...listen to yourselves and you will know it to be true.
I wouldn't elect McCain or Obama to be my president as both believe in God...how can you consider electing men who do not believe in evolution!
Mark, UK, Spain
Putin didn't say that someone was from Texas. It has been said by general Nagoviotsin: An american passport was found on the place where Georgian troops had been destroyed.
This text is a set of quotation from interviews of several peoples and explanations are omitted.
Vladimir, Moscow,
Many many accusations from Russia. They invaded, but the USA made them do it.
Any PROOF?
John, Cleggen, Ireland
So Russia have effectively annexed part of another country. There's nothing new under the Sun.
Robin Laundon, London, UK
Russia has sent troops into a country that posses no threat to it or to any other country in the region. It has manufactured excusses to do so both by passing out citizenship and inventing a genocide. All eyes should now be on the Crimea. Can anyone explain how our interest in oil has been promoted?
Tim, Edinburgh, UK
Why wouldn't Bush manipulate this conflict for political purposes? He manipulated Iraq for political purposes, the trial of detainees at Guantanamo, the rise of terrorism alert levels during the last election. If the Bush White House has shown one thing, it will do anything to win an election.
Marvin Meadors, San Francisco, USA
I don't doubt that the Bush administration would engage in such tactics to help McCain - they are desperately afraid of Obama winning because they suspect that there will be investigations and trials to follow and many NeoCons will end up in jail if the Democrats have a large majority in Congess
Craig, NYC, USA
Why am I not surprised? Cheney heads to Georgia and Cindy McCain is already there "offering humanitarian assistance". Cheney and Bush will do anything including sacrificing American lives and the lives of other people except their own for their political and monetary gain. Witness the Iraq war.
Edie, Pittsburgh, USA
Don't be so quick to negate what Putin is saying. There is evidence mounting that what Putin is saying is true. The corporate media here are conveniently leaving out the fact that Georgia attacked South Ossetia first..implying Russian is the aggressor.
cmbaldwin, Los Angeles, CA, United States
This charge has been around since day one. There were US and israeli advisers with the georgian army. There were israeli generals and the Minister of defence is an Israeli. Pat buchanan, the Republican commentator, supports this general line. it may heve been the October surprise.
William, Guildford, UK
Why should we not believe Putin ? Bush and his sidekick McBush are not to be trusted, their credibility is about zero. They have taken the American public hostage and want to keep it that way. Could we see the passport ?
Pierre, Quebec, Canada
Before the Iraq invasion I would have said: "Putin has gone bonkers!" Now I must admit with Bush/Cheney everything is possible, including the worst... I hope Putin is wrong... I just hope, but I wouldn't bet my savings on it.
Dave, London, UK
Funny, UK and US nationals are claiming that Mr Putin is mad, while the rest of the world thinks otherwise. Who's brainwashed here?
Yuri, Brussels/Minsk,
The Americans provide the finance,arms and training but know nothing about Georgian intentions? This reminds me of events in Kosovo. This time round however , George Bush received a bloody nose while the Georgian people are paying a higher price.
Bob
Bob , Bradford,
It's so frightening to think that a leader in charge of a nuclear arsenal such as Bush send his troops to fight against civilian and peacekeepers in South Ossetia
Alexey, Moscow, Russia
Comical that anything the new celebrity Putin says is immediately followed by a score of utterances from Kremlinfake Americans applauding his every silly word - like audience plants for failing comics.
Ian, Berwick, UK
"Vladimir Putin accuses Bush of provoking Georgia conflict to help John McCain"
If Mr Putin already knew that, then why did he fall for it ?
jayil, london, uk
Putin is an extremely sinister character, but it was mighty convenient for McCain. And the links between Randy Scheuneman, a McCain adviser, and the Georgian government are undisputed. The US has a history of advancing its agenda by fostering conflict in foreign countries (Congo, Chile, East Timor)
Mike, London, UK
Russia, and most of Europe see the US as STUPID individuals would readily believe any silly allegation against its President, and persons they disapproval of. Putin was on CNN - to use those SIMPLE MINDS, and sow some NEGATIVE, and divisive, "Bash-Bush" seeds. Let's show them how correct they are.
Lynn, Chelsea,
So Putin wants Obama to win....what does that say about Obama then?
Chris, Ashland, KY, USA
Rudyard Kipling: when all die the game is over
tata, Moscow, Russia
Given that McCain's foreign policy advisor is best mates with the joke of a Georgian President (a US eductated lawyer himnself), it's not that hard to put 2 and 2 together here... Neocons, gotta love them. Putin is KGB, he wouldn't be saying this if he didn't know it to be true,
Cris, Manchester, UK
To Leonid, Moscow:
I see Russian news, there is satellite TV you know....
The Russian government and military give you daily news as they realise they have lost international respect need to justify their actions by means of wild anti-western accusations which you want to read and believe.
Howard, London, UK
the thought had crossed my mind days after georgia attacked South Ossetia... why would they attack? especially knowing that Russia would step in?... sounds like the GOP, everything is a political tool... it's the RED SCARE all over again... if it's not "terrorists" then it's the big red bear.
Daniel, Los Angeles, CA, USA
Divide and conquer. The west meanwhile bickers about how bad America and Bush are. The west is idealistically divided, Georgia is forcefully divided. perfect time to conquer. This world is going to hell in a hand basket..
Tom, Minneapolis, USA
yea thats special forces 101 isnt it, always take your passport on top secret missions.
georgia is the ideal staging post for an attack on iran? yes lets move troops from iraq to georgia to invade iran, its that well known military doctrine of attacking somwhere by moving troops further away.
will, grimsby, uk
i agree that we've got to hear both sides, but as it turns out
"The U.N. Security Council refused on Thursday to approve a request from representatives of two Georgian breakaway regions, which Russia has recognized as independent states, to address the council."
Kris, Brighton,
Too bad we have to look to the Russians for truth in journalism--we certainly can't get it in the US.
Donna Saggia, Saint Paul,
Is it just coincidence that Karl Rove "vacationed" in Georgia a few months before this incidence and that McCains campaign manager is a neocon and lobbyist for Georgia. Don't forget that it was not Russia that made the first move here, it was Georgia that made the first aggressive act.
Tanna, Los Angeles, usa
A new cold war with Russia is a lot safer than kidding ourselves that they were our partners. They can't afford a new cold war, so let them bankrupt themselves trying.
Frank, New York, USA
"Someone in the US especially created this conflict with the aim of making the situation more tense and creating an advantage for one of the candidates fighting for the post of US President"
What's wrong with you people? Read the biography of Saakashvili to realise there is truth behind it.
Ilya, S-Petersburg, Russia
Saying that the U.S. government would perpetrate a clandistine plot to promote violence between two countries for political gain is as outlandish as ... as ... well, as playing off the national trauma and grief following 9/11 to invade a sovereign nation that had NOTHING to do with that tragedy.
Wm. Arnold, Indianapolis, USA
Two questions...first how would we like it, if Russia armed and sent "military advisors' to Mexico and then invaded two provinces that bordered the US; 2nd tell me Republicans who wrote a blurb...how many of you have ever voted for anyone other than a Republican
George, Philadelphia, PA
I don't like Putin either, but with this accusation he was clearly right on the money, in every sense.
Julia Iskandar, London, England
The media here in the US has been talking about an "October Surprise" with wink and a nod to help McCain ever since Obama went to Europe. McCain has ties to Georgia, Obama is on vacation in Hawaii and the Olympics had started, suddenly there's a crisis in Georgia, you do the math.
Linda, Oregon, US
To Rob, Sydney, Australia
Don't you understand? These are for spreading democracy all over the globe!
Vlad, Perm,
why not rational?! acc to statistics McCane's leading now! To present RF as an agressor is convenient: not to let people focus on internal problems but on "danger" from RF, etc. Today my teacher-englishman told a funny story: an american woman worried why Rus tanks were in the state of Georgia,USA:)
Tanya, Moscow, Russia
How can we see the full Putin interview? Does anyone have a link with subtitles?
Claire, Paris, France
After experiencing the failed policies of George Bush and the Republicans over the last eight years, this appears to have been their attempted last hurrah! But, once again, they have been caught with their pants down - as Putin wasn't part of their script. Putin is obviously right in this case.
Dr Cahill, Denver, USA
A comment for you anti-US Australians; who are you going to call when Indonesia invades you for your resources?
The USA is the only thing preventing Australia being the next East Timor. The same goes for most democracies: Your paranoia does not become you. Besides, Putin fears McCain not Obama.
Zen, London,
To suggest that the United States orchestrated this on behalf of a political candidate it sounds not rational" Dana Perino
What has the Bush crime family done in the last eight years that HAS been rational?
Invasion of Iraq? Not rational!
Spying on Americans? Not rational!
etc..etc..etc
cg, sacramento, ca,
For all of you who is counting deads it counted and will be listed soon. Last number is 1692 osetian's people die in 7-8 night Aug-2008
Alex, Cxinval, S.O.
The hands of Bush-Cheyney-McCain were obvious from the beginning. They need a new Cold War to frighten US voters into supporting the military industrial complex. The Arabs are insufficiently frightening.
John Tomkinson, Athens, Greece
The US military has been in Georgia since 2002 training and equipping Georgia troops.
USMC, Scottsdale, USA
WHY do you think Mr. Vader (Cheeney) was over there last week?? To get the evidence out of Georgia....REAL clear... and WHY would the US send a SMALL Coast Guard cutter to a remote port to deliver aid for a whole country??
Insane to draw any other conclusion than the US started it...
RB-Chicago, Chicago, USA
To: Alex, Perm, RF
Wow, the Georgians must have been damn quick to have shelled, found the bodies and buried 1600-2000 in such a short space of time before the very fast pre-prepared Russian response. Only 133 bodies have been found yet, although genocide was the reason given by Russia to invade.
Howard, London, UK
Want to know why Bush/Cheney are so attached to Georgia google for Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline. It answers a lot of questions about Saakashvili and the "democracy" in Georgia.
gendos, Wisconsin, USA
The US made a deal with Iran to make it look like the surge worked: Bush promised not to attack Iran. Iran brought down oil prices and stopped targetting US soldiers in Iraq. Now instead of sanctions to stop Iran's nuclear program - or a blockade of Iran-we have a US-Russiancollusion to distract.
Daniel, albuquerque, USA
I will never understand why ' The West ' always behaves as if it is immaculate, and can do no wrong.
Why does Nato deem it wise to expand into the former soviet bloc? Why offer membership to nations on Russia's borders. Are those who are making these decisions sane,or are they playing a game.
Anlashaq, London, UK
Bad Vlad is rapidly turning into Mad Vlad.
Ollie, London, UK
And I suppose the White House infiltrated the Kremlin and convinced them to violate the 6-point ceasefire agreement that Medvedev signed.
In spite of the absurdity of these accusations, my fear is that this could actually get traction. Thanks to Bush, madmen start making more sense.
Blixa, Nottingham,
It's not why Russia went to Georgia that is the problem - it is why Russia WILL NOT LEAVE Georgia. Putin is just giving liberal dogs something to chew on while he attains his goals.
Putin lies to his own people, do you think he'd have qualms lieing to the American public?!!
Nigel, London, England
Well Putins hardly going to blame himself or Russia for the present situation. He must be really worried though of McCain becoming US President because he knows his tough talk will fall on deaf ears,whilst he is no doult praying for Obama to win because he believes he will be a pushover.
Dave, mold, UK
Bush also sold out Israel and locked Israel from attacking Iran. The natural gas pipeline was heading through Turkey to Haifa. Now the Russian fleet i s moving into the Mediterranean. Russia strengthens its alliance with Iran. It is a game for the Bush team to make a mess for Barack.
Daniel, albuquerque, USA
For the US to have something to do with the whole thing is not new, but i believe the fact of linking it to the presidential elections is absurd.
however there are other places where the US has bakced political parties and wings against each other and when it blows up they come to the rescue.
Ronald, Beirut, Lebanon
There are a lot of incontestable facts American to arm, train, aim, and give informational and political support to Saakashvili regime to be established by US too. Now Putin added about the orchestrating only. Indeed there has been a chance Republicans to win the White House but it is one out of several versions.
Alexey, Moscow,
I am just curious- almost every day the Russian military HQ gives press conference for journalists.
BUT there are no mass media from the west. NONE. Why?
My answer- your leaders don't want you to know the truth... sorry
Leonid, Moscow,
The sad fact is that lots of people in the west, and even in the U.S., will believe this. That is the only reason he has bothered to say it.
Roger, London, UK
Putin the conspiracy nut? I thought he was better than that. He is an embarrassment to his country. He is not one to talk about influencing elections to the benefit of preferred candidates.
j madden, Aberdeen,
"We know that he is a resident in the state of Texas"
HA! What in the Wide Wide World a' Sports is goin' on here? Assassinations? Invasions? Dog-Ate-My-Real-Alibi excuses? With each speech Putin shows himself more and more to be an overdone Bond villain with poorly-written lines. How dangerous!
Duke R. Keith, El Paso, TX, USA
"We know that he is a resident in the state of Texas"
HA! What in the Wide Wide World a' Sports is goin' on here? Assassinations? Invasions? Dog-Ate-My-Real-Alibi excuses? With each speech Putin shows himself more and more to be an overdone Bond villain with poorly-written lines. How dangerous!
Duke R. Keith, El Paso, TX, USA
Whether or not this is correct, Putin is as credible as bush or cheney; Putin has been more truthful with us than bush. We will never know the truth and it probably doesn't matter. It is in Europe, let the Europeans do the heavy lifting for once and stay out of it.
rich , FAIRFAX, USA
Gary , Scotland .' A special forces soldier carrying a passport, please'
You obviously didn't read the story about the police firearms officer shooting himself in the foot on the firing range while in the process of renewing his firearms certification ( he probably still passed )
Douglas Maxwell, Richmond, Yorkshire
Bush/Cheney and McCain will do anything for POWER, but guess what, the American people are no longer believing the lies the Bush Administration is putting out. Bush and Cheney should be jailed.
Johnathan, Tucker, United States
to Ralf, London. We had an opportunity to to read and watch the CNN interview with Putin in full, not cut up in pieces and served with appropriate anti-Russian view. That's western people seem t be totaly brainwashed in terms of Russia's role in this conflict. Putin seems very sane and rational.
Ekaterina, Moscow, Russia
Give us a break Russians. You can lie to your own people and they will embrace it. Try to lie to the FREE world and we will laugh in your face. WE know the difference between free speech and soviet propaganda, even if the majority of YOU don't. It's about time Russia joined the rest of the free worl
Chuck, DS, Slovakia
It is sometimes right to be suspicious of US Foreign policy & their somewhat nefarious Intelligence Agencies but this is taking Russian paranoia to a new level..There is another reason why this crisis has come around - were Georgia pushed into this move & if so by whom?
S, LONDON, UK
Putin sounds like he's out of his mind. It must somehow play better in Russia than it does in the US, though. I think it's obvious Putin will do and say anything to justify a small land grab to control oil pipeline routes.
Harry, Saint Petersburg, FL, United States
I believed from the very beginning when I heard that Georgia had bombed S. Osetia that McCain was behind it and if you think for one minute that John McWarmonger is incapable of doing this to our military, research his support of the military....he doesn't care a shill about us "lower Americans"
Sandra, Fort Myers, USA
That's right, the United States has nothing better to do than to cause turmoil between Georiga and Russia. Putin is an idiot to think that President Bush would resort to such stupid actions to help John McCain get elected. Putin is beginning to sound like the left wing Liberals here in the U.S.
Mar, Tulsa, USA
It's so frightening to think that a leader in charge of a nuclear arsenal such as Russia can defer responsibility or believe in such ludicrous conspiracy theories.
donald mackintosh, pomona, australia
Although I can understand the unwillingness to believe a word out of Putin's mouth, why is it that Americans are the first to FORGET that we were deliberately misled into a war? This is a wholly plausable scenario. And the MSM will paint Putin as unhinged w/o considering the validity of his claim.
Dante, Beaufort SC, USA
Next, Putin will be saying that the U.S. was responsible for the demise of the dinasaurs. All this rhetoric is getting tiresome.
The U.S. & Russia need a summit with straight talk as soon as possible after the new President is worn in, and get on the same global page ASAP.
Tom T, Delray Beach, Fl, U.S.
If putin is fearfull of Mcain I just found out who I'm voting for
scott, buffalo, usa
I chuckled when I read "we know is a resident of Texas". He is implying that if said passport was found and Bush is from Texas that despite 30 million Texans living in Texas, they must all know each other and be working together!
Anthony, Los Angeles, USA
Nothing would be less surprising to me than the idea that George Bush manipulated this situation for political reasons. After the last few years, it is clear that the Bush White House can't be trusted on any level. Putin may be completely correct.
Jim Q , Akron, Ohio, USA
Putin is mostly right, there's also an issue of needing a new "enemy" to justify huge expenditures from public coffers into private military-industrial coffers, which is the Bush specialty.
Jeff, Los Angeles, US
To John Bargh
They may be lying, but not quite so stupidly. The forces in Poti are peacekeeper forces. Whether or not they are, that's what they mean. Not sure if 133 dead is too small to qualify for genocide, but the commission says 133 dead identified with names. They are not done yet.
Al, San Jose,
to: John Bargh
133 - it is those only whose names were known at that moment only. It was explained, but western media preferred not to publish explanation. Many were buried near houses, on the streets etc. because of decaying, their names are unknown. approx. number is 1600.
Alex, Perm, RF
Putin is right, McCain and Bush with their neocon friends were flying back in forth encouraging that Saakashvili character. Before the war started, both McCain and Bush were offering support, military advisors and weapons. With that assurance all is left is fighting.
Vox, Stratford,
Why do Westerners think that their leaders are somehow incapable of doing awful and terrible things? We know for a fact that Bush and Co lied to get us into the Iraq War and are likely trying to get a war started in Iran. Bush and Co are delusional and would probably do this to get McCain elected.
Jason Young, Little Rock, AR, USA
Who would have more to gain from creating enemies: a democratically elected president who is about to lose his mandate, or a 'democratically' elected president determined to hang on to his mandate forever? Putin needs to create enemies in the minds of Russians. The US has enough already.
Andy , London, UK
Anyone want to consider that the pot might be calling the kettle black? The public info (good review in Der Spiegel) indicates that it was Russia that was looking for (and highly likely provoking) a reason to "save its citizens",' expand its borders, payback for kosovo, etc.
Bob, Chicago, USA
...this would be a bit like us saying that we attacked Afghanistan because an Afghan passport bearing the addess "secret terrorist base, the mountains, Afghanistan" was found in the rubble of the twin towers. Cant believe that Putin actually expects people to believe this.
michael walsh, Manchester,
Since there is a withdrawal timetable from Iraq and the Pentagon is resisting attacking Iran, Cheney has to drum up another reason to pour millions into the military industrial complex. What are all the weapons manufacturers and war services contractors going to do for a living without a war?
Maureen Meyer, Minneapolis, USA
Why would anyone be surprised if the Bush-Cheney led neocons conspired to lie, manipulate and orchestrate this conflict for political gain. It fits their Modus Operandi in the past. There is no proof - yet - but they have the motive, means and opportunity.
Bill Carson, Palm Springs, USA
It makes absolute sense that the US government may have been behind this. Obama was on vacation and McCain got a multi-point bump in the polls after this. Of course the US media has had no coverage of Georgia's initial provocation, and Americans are too naive to question their leaders.
Kat, Beverly Hills, USA
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION IN THE WORLD TODAY THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED RIGHT NOW. Why does the USA have almost 750 foreign military war bases spread across 140 countries throughout the world??? What are these bases there for? Why are they there? Is there a US military base in your country?
Rob, Sydney, Australia
Why are people surprised that a country like the U.S. might start a war somewhere? The U.S. currently fights two wars both of which are illegal and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of civilians. Ask why a small country armed and trained by America starts a war it can't win. Putin knows.
Peter Brooker, Sydney, Australia
wouldn't put it past neocons. They famously trapped Soviets into going to Afghanistan in 79 and exploited it to no end, and still can't stop bragging about it. This smells the same, Putin had no choice, he couldn't just watch his peacekeepers die. This whole game is unfolding on neocon terms.
Tony, Rochester, USA!
The sad thing is that the actions of Bush & Co in 7+ years have been such as to make this accusation believable. When I look in Bush's eyes, I don't see anyone credible any more. More's the pity.
Mark In Irvine, Irvine, CA, USA
McCain's chief foreign policy advisor and business partner, Randy Scheuneman, lobbied the senator & staff on 49 occasions in a 3 1/2-year span while being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the government of the republic of Georgia. This is about oil, power, and maintaining the status quo.
Frederick, Malmo, US
Haden - just thought that I should mention that it was LBJ, a democrat, responsible for Gulf of Tonkin. (Disclaimer: I am not a republican. I just want to set the record straight.)
Andy, Madison, WI, USA
It is very fruitful project for people to watch, US will continue until election. Fear - this is what they need. Most of people in US have no idea where Georgia is (not that Georgia with city of Atlanta), but they will recognise own fear against Russian presence (somewhere).
Andris, Riga, Latvia
I believe Putin is correct. I think there is ample evidence that the Bush Administration, in their trademark fashion, attempted to craft an "October surprise" for Obama prior to the DNC convention. I actually think a lot of Americans don't understand exactly how much the situation blew back on Bush.
Kevin, Los Angeles,
And you know what? That man is not only just our prime minister, he is the BIG BOSS. He controls the media, parties, business, virtually everything in Russia. Gives me chills. And you count on that whatever he says will be the truth for most of Russians.
Dmitri, Petrozavodsk, Russia
US has between 100-200 military "advisors" in Georgia. Israel has over 1,000. US may have given the green light for Georgia's attack? ... possible. Good points regarding election and Iran. Watch the US Naval build up in the Persian Gulf (note no US news coverage).
Earl, Washington, DC, USA
Can someone explain this then, didn't Russia invade Georgia. So does Putin and bush have a thing going and he listens to bush....heck no.....just another attempt to engage the US and blame them for his, Putin's, actions.
Marge, Hibbing, USA
I suspect George Soros was the big encourager behind the war in Georgia.the fact he is obamas big financial backer is frightening for the world.
bryan grehan, breisbane, australia
Governments historically are evil and oppressive. One should always be skeptical when any government gives a reason for war. The elite get rich while the poor die in ignorance. Never make up your mind before you get both sides of the story and digest the the information.
Cam, Laurel, USA
Lets think about this. Bush supports Saakashvili fully. Georgian military budget has quadrupled in just 2 years any reason?
Theres no way U.S. was not aware of such attack. On the other hand, Washington could not underestimate Russian forces.
So, the only logical conclusion is: Putin has a point
Alex, Los Angeles, USA
The man has every reason to lie but ti will find fertile ground with many who find the US guilty until proven innocent. He can also count on this detracting attention from the fact that Russia violated cease fire agreements, etc. etc. etc (regards of why it started).
Dave, Menlo Park, CA, USA
Putin is not necessarily a credible source, but it is not an implausible scenario. U.S. intelligence has bungled numerous operations (Bay of Pigs, Watergate) and history has shown that Republicans will do anything to mobilize public opinion (Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs, and Iran hostages).
Haden, Memphis, TN, USA
why don we ask the US to stop bombing other countries to set up pro-US regimes and let them do what they want to do? russia is doing the same thing now. US has no right to accuse russia.
Kyle, Frankfurt am Main, Germany
to: John Bargh
133 - it is those only, whose name were known at that moment. It was explained, but western media preferred not to publish explanation. Many were buried near houses, on the streets etc. because of decaying, their names are unknown. approx. number is 1600.
Alex, Perm, RF
I have been reading livejournal written by Georgian soldiers and they are under impression that thier aim was to provoke Russians (rather than retake S Ossetia) One of them claimed that Russian tanks crossing the gorge into S Ossetia from Russia ran out of fuel ang got stuck there for 2 hrs but Georgians did not bomd them though tanks were within their fire range and let them a free pass!
Nik, Moscow/Sydney, Russia
I read the whole story on Russian Gov official site. My surprise - the west media took only extras, changing the sence. The interview is deeper, for everyone to analyse. I recommend to watch (or read) the whole interview, not the false interpretations...
Leonid, Moscow,
An American special forces official advisor walking around a battle zone with his American passport is as insane as a spy walking around using his real name and country while on assignment. If this person did exist it may be a reporter or a Georgian-American. If this passport exists then publish it
Anthony, Los Angeles, USA
I can't seem to watch the actual full interview on CNN. Earlier they said it would be shown at 1900 GMT, but they showed the same extracts with 'analysis' or whatever they call it. Can we see the whole interview or what?
Maria, London, UK
Yes, originally we had planned to start a war in Kazakhstan but our special forces operatives couldn't get their visas in time so we had to settle for Georgia.
C. Heathcote, Tonbridge,
While accusing the White House of inciting or encouraging Georgia's strike against SO might be going to far, surely the US must have been aware of the plan and did nothing to discourage it. Like Saddam Hussein with Kuwait Saakashvili thought the US had given him the green light even if it hadn't.
Tom Bradford, Wellington, New Zealand
Georgia is a good start point for US to invade Iran. Saakashivilli's attack on SO was an attempt to make world to concentrate on this war conflict instead of Iran. I think that within 1,5 month US will attack Iran from military bases in Georgia and than one will see the real reason for this war
Alla, St.Petersburg,
Yeah right Vladi go have a lie down.
mykal, Aldershot, England
Has the Kremlin gone insane? First Medvedev, and now Putin, are openly lying. Medvedev claims the Russians have withdrawn from Poti, when their checkpoints are plain as day. Both claim the Georgians carried out a genocide in South Ossetia, when an official Russian commission says only 133 dead!
John Bargh, Clitheroe, United Kingdom
With this intervention by Mr Putin, it's pretty clear who he would like to have as US president!
Paul UK, Craigavon, NI
That's real funny. Do you think if we had special forces or covert ops in South Osetia they would be stupid enough to carry their passport?
Rod, Los Angeles, USA
It's the first thing I thought when Georgia invaded Ossetia. Iraqi and Afghan war go very badly and Bush needs a new flag for the Vietnam hero McCain. Why not redescover the old Russian bear? The Americans are so naives....
Giulio, Rome,
Seems as though somebody has opened the toy box again , could it be George ?
Branston Pittle, Telford,
Putin's ridiculous accusation does not sadden me. After rigging elections, imprisoning political opponents and almost certainly assassinating Alexander Litvinenko on the streets of London he has shown the full figure of his character.
What saddens me is that some people will believe this tripe.
John Swaine, Malta, Malta
The man has a point.
David Masu, Zürich,
A special forces soldier or American agent carrying a passport in a conflict area? Seriously..........
Gary, Glasgow, Scotland
Similarities:
2001: 11/9
2004: Invasion Irak (2003)
2008: Who is left ? Ah!, old enemy Russia. Let's do something involving Russia.
Leopold, Las Palmas, Spain
This is real madness. Putin's allegations are so surreal. He is real Homo Sovieticus, byproduct of Anthropological explosion of early 20th century.
George, London, UK
Has anyone attempted to piece together this story? The day of the invasion by Georgian forces, Senator John McCain acknowledges that he was talking to the Georgian president. Not even one interview by any newspaper-asking if they had discussed the planned invasion. Does this smell like a coverup?
Gilbert Sierra, San Francisco, USA
Putin is a man not on close terms with the truth, and he should be wary of accusing people of engineering their own succession - given his own record on back-seat presidency.
David John Marusza, Cardiff, UK
John McCain will lead world to the WW 3
Tim, Moscow,
This situation no doubt helps McCain's chances, and Repubs are known for shameless campaign tactics, but to suggest that all this was orchestrated as part of an election campaign......well, time for Putin to put on his tinfoil hat.
David, Wash DC, USA
The facts: 1)US teach Georgia army 2)US supply Georgia with weapons 3)NATO warships are now in Georgia 4)McCaine took points from his anti-Russia position 5)US support Georgia in its aggression against civilians in S-Osetia. So it sounds like Putin is right, since US just screem on TV but no facts
Leonid, Moscow,
We remember Watergate and remember Iraq.
Wagner, Neuss,
It has been patently clear since the very start of this conflict that Bush/McCain gave the OK for Georgian troops to attack SO. Watch this entrie video for the truth about this conflict:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BMImW5ZjUXM&feature=related
sisalto, London,
Entirely credible scenario. Let us pull back and inspect the evidence. After all, Mr. Putin must have
experience of just this 'check' move, which we Brits probably
invented 200 years ago.
Saakashvilli jumped or was pushed. Ingredients for John le Carre. Absolutely no need to go deeper, yet!
geoffrey swain, Almancil, Portugal
Now we know for sure that we are so gratuitous with our political quagmire. I'm positively sure that Bush had no discussions with McCain as McCain knew how the Soviets acted when he was on active duty.
Is Putin afraid of the moxie of McCain? I say GOOD! Let him sweat.
Michael Lilly, Charlotte Hall, USA
Dmitry, one seems to think that the entire Russian people have been brainwashed by those leading men who behave like dictators and resort to methods that makes one think they are still living in 1965.
NATO doesn't want any conflict. Moscow are behaving more childishly every day.
Ralph, London,
Russia considers the old Warsaw pact area as their back yard, just as the the US considers the Americas theirs, under the Monroe Doctrine. Unfortunately we have a long history of meddling: Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada, Chile, Iran (1980s)....
Putin's accusation sounds like Germany's in 1939 Poland
Gunther Steinberg, Portola Valley CA, USA
It will be very interesting should the Russians publish the name and photo on the US passport that was supposedly found in a village near the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali.
Someone will know him... even if he is CIA.
Let's wait and see what happens.
A.Kirk, Manchester,
I am from Belarus, mother of my wife is from Russia. I have friends in Ukraine, Armenia, Russia. We were brother nations before US decided to settle its puppet democracies. You americans tell about territory. But you do not talk about people who live in S.Ossetia and Abhazia. U don't care about them
Andrei, Brest, Belarus
The Russian FSB is behind the troubles in former Soviet republics. NATO isn't interested in countries like Ukraine, Georgia until they meet the criteria for stable borders and security.
Russia was friendly with Nato members prior to Putin and his FSB (ex KGB) cabal getting fingers on power
Rob Olivier, Norwich, UK
It is very likely that US triggered Georgia-Russia conflict by encouraging Georgia to attack South Ossetia on August 7.
The fact that US administration and US media tried hard to hide the fact that Georgia brutally attacked South Ossetia first,
supports Putin's claim.
Alex, Seattle, USA
Putin presented a precise chronology of events since the beginning of Georgian attack on South Ossetia the facts that were ignored by certain Western media. According to it Georgian officials refused to talk to Russian gov soon after the attack and the US could but didn't calm down Georgian troops.
Tim, Moscow, Russia
I've had no doubt from the very beginning of the conflict that it was initiated by the current White House administration with the objective to score more points for their crazy republican party candidate.
Anatoly , St. Petersburg,
The worst part is how this will be perceived in the West. Russia invades and destroys the sovereignty of an ally nation, does not remove troops after repeatedly agreeing to do so, and now will get of with a free pass because the media now has a way to blame President Bush. Unreal.
Paul, Buffalo, USA
Is Bush also responsible for the Russian Mig-29 that shot down a Georgian UAV over Georgian territory (not over breakaway provinces) a week and a half before Russia invaded (see youtube). By the way, how did Russia get all those tanks and troops into S. Ossetia and Abkhazia in a couple of hours?
HarryVT, Wilton, USA
This is laughable Putin - YOUR actions will help McCain. The only good thing that Bush can do is ride into the sunset and never return. If he tried to help McCain he would end up hurting him. You're giving the US way to much credit thinking we could pull this off.
David, North Carolina, US
Mr. Putin sounds like a card carrying American liberal with that kind of pap! Sounds as though they may fear McCain and Obama not so much.
Casey L. Brown-Myers, Lubbock, USA
I am from Belarus, my wife is Russian, my parents live in Belarus, my relatives live in Ukraine and I have many friends in Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Germany... NATO wants that we all will fall into the "civil" war with each other. Let's focus on partnership... "peace - friedship - chewing gum"
Dmitry, Moscow, Russia